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Hot Threads: One Night in TNA, Hunter Does The Coffin Rock, Red Tie Redemption, Best of WCW Nitro, and More

By Corey "TheGreatWhiteDope" Letson, Emmett "The Green Teabagger" Gore, and Chris "RowdyRodimus" Intres Jun 13, 2011 - 8:17 AM

JG Note: We're very happy to welcome longtime forum member Chris "RowdyRodimus" Intres as the third member of the Hot Threads rotation this week. Chris has been on the World Wrestling Insanity Message Boards for four years and has seen it all. So welcome the Rowdy One to the group and read on as they attempt to sew up some Hot Threads...

 


THE GREEN TEABAGGER

 

Damn it to hell...most of the talk in the TNA threads this week has been about Chyna's foray/new profession/transition into porn. The thought of that man-beast in a porno makes me want to vomit. It makes me want to start drinking....Drano.

God help me...

You know what? I'm not going to hide it. Reading that thread to do this actually has made me throw up but I'm a professional. A professional at what I haven't the foggiest idea, but I'll tread through this.

Starting from June 3rd.....even if the thread itself started a few weeks earlier, this is enough to murder a soul.

ZAH: Apparently TNA has been telling Chyna that "her job" is in jeopardy:

- Wrestling superstar Chyna tells TMZ ... she has been told point blank that if her new XXX porn tape is actually released, she will never be allowed to work for TNA Wrestling ever again.

 

 


It's a big deal for Chyna -- because she had recently been in talks with the wrestling organization about working out a long term deal ... and before the XXX tape came into the picture, things were looking optimistic.

But now, with the hardcore tape set to be released later this month, Chyna tells us she got a call from TNA honchos warning her that if she lets the tape hit shelves ... the deal is off for good.

Chyna tells us, "The whole thing has been constant drama ... it's all good in the end ... [TNA Wrestling] is missing the boat."

She adds, "FREEDOOOM!"

So far, no word from TNA.


http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/02/chyna-fired-xxx-video-tna-wrestling-threatened-porno-tape-contract-vivid/


Suuuuuure she has been "in talks" about working out a long-term deal. I can only imagine. Hell...I've forgotten she even made an APPEARANCE in TNA, much less give a shit that she'd actually make a return.

Of course this is TNA, so who knows....

Oh...and you gotta love the pic that TMZ used. That's awesome. Soooooo hot.

Canadian Bulldog: Soooo... Pacman Jones, a man who allegedly beat a woman at a strip club, was fine by TNA's stringent employment standards. But Chyna, who made a porno film that NO ONE will ever watch, doesn't make the cut?

Something is fucked up with that.

ZAH: Oh dear god...DO NOT watch the second clip!!! I thought the first clip was bad. Sweet lord...that was horrific!! Absolutely gross in every way imaginable.

I can't even describe it. It's just NOT what pornography is supposed to be. Absolutely disgusting.

-------sprout1883: See Zah, you've only gone and got me interested.

Perhaps TNA don't want her not because it is a porno, but that it is an absolutle pile of shit

Mike Johns:
You guys didn't believe me when I said Dixie would have a serious problem with this, did you?

Between Jeff Jarrett, Vince Russo's God-bend and blatant misogyny, and the Carter Family, there's enough Pat Robertson-level Family Values voters in power positions to choke out pretty much every sexual double-standard imaginable.

As for whether there's been serious talk of TNA keeping Chyna around, it's probably somewhat true. "Somewhat" being "hey, if we have a spot open up, we'll call you. Unless this porno comes out. Then fuck you."

The Chosen 1: Alright ZAH.. I'm going in.. I'm gonna try this on my own but if I can't find them need to know where you've gotten these vids... unless you actually paid for this.. in which case may God have mercy on your soul

ZAH: The good news just got better, kids...

Chyna's new XXX video will not be her last .... the former wrestler tells TMZ she wants to keep the ball rolling and make porn into her full time career. Chyna has already approached Vivid Entertainment honcho Steven Hirsch and informed him that she's interested in a multi-tape deal ... and she's ready to start crankin' em out ASAP. "I would definitely like to do more, " Chyna says ... "It gives me motivation again. I want to be better and happier than ever ... that's the point, right?"

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/05/chyna-porn-xxx-tape-adult-video-vivid-entertainment


Hellsinger: Seriously! She's going to do more and Vivid may actually let her!?!

I'm going to admit this now that I watched about half a of the second scene, and that was as bad as Zah said it was and more! Believe me when I say this movie sucks toast with shit butter!

Guys and maybe even one other woman on here, do yourselves a favor and do not watch if you have the desire to ever feel the urge to have sex again! You can't un-see this!

wolfchild: Ya know what really pisses me off. Out of ALL the celebutantes, or whatever you want to call them, that have 'accidentally' had a sex tape leaked.. Who's the one we get who get's into main steam porn? Chyna!

Seriously! Pamela Anderson, Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Carrie Prejean, Katie Price, and Kendra!! but who do we get doing actual porn? Fucking Chyna.

Just wrong and unfair...

(And yes, before someone jumps down my throat, I realize that none of the names I mentioned would ever go into porn, but I never thought I'd see multiple Chyna porno's coming out so there you go...)

Although... To play devil's advocate... Maybe this will lead to more post diva porn... What's Stacy Keibler doing now?

Just... Let me dream for a minute...


OK, that's enough. I can't take this shit anymore. I think I'm going to watch some Kelly Kelly-Alicia Fox-Bella Twin matches to numb the pain.

The three of us---oh by the way, welcome to the team RowdyRodimus---rotate what gets done by each columnist on what topic. In three weeks, it'll be my turn to work the TNA threads again. If this Chyna porn thing is still relevant then, someone is subbing for me that week. I can't read the thread anymore. I won't even dare look at the clips of it. Those of you that did are either too brave for your own good or you're a sick ass weirdo.

Chyna in a porn.

DO NOT WANT

EVER


Okay onto some positive TNA/Impact wrestling news.

Well it's positive compared to the Chyna crap.

James Bullock: It has been reported that the UFC's contract with Spike TV is running out this year, and that the UFC and Spike TV will likely not sign a new deal. On top of that, the UFC is currently interested in acquiring a controlling stake of the G4 network. While the UFC draws a better advertising rate for Spike TV, if they leave the network, TNA will become the network's most valuable show ratings wise.

theman6201: The reverse thinking of that would be that if UFC left, and TNA is the highest rated show you have, what's to stop Spike TV from rebranding away from the "All Male" network? IF they became a more general interest network, would they want to keep TNA? I don't know. I can see it as both good and bad for TNA. To be the top rated show on the network does give you a little power with the executives. However, if nothing else is working and you're ratings aren't super, what's to say the network just doesn't abandon ship and start over? It will be interesting to see what happens. [G-Bag note: If that's the route Spike TV takes, it will be the third time in the last twelve years they have "rebranded" and "started over." They went from The Nashville Network (or as Joey Styles called it, the only network without indoor plumbing) to The National Network in 2000 and then to Spike TV in 2003.]


Hmmm....actually at this point the thread fell off into what shows the board could make that would be better and draw better ratings than Impact. Personally, I think a chili fart in the wind could come off better than most episodes of Impact. I think Steve Corino could host a two-hour show called "Thumb in the Bum" where he just ran up on people and thumbed them would be better than most episodes of Impact. Mike Johns suggested he could do Heroes-esque redux, except make it not suck more than a Kelly Kelly-Alicia Fox-Bella Twin match. It's crazy what we come up with on the World Wrestling Insanity Message Boards  
when we're motivated, bored, or just so disgusted by something as f'd up as Chyna in a porn.

Son of a....

I need a drink.

I need to numb the pain.

Where's that Melina-Alicia Fox match that powder puff from Tough Enough who was eliminated first loved so damn much? That'll fix me up.

The hell with that. I've got this.

 

 

                     


 

                                 

THE GREAT WHITE DOPE

                                            

                         

You know, I'm slowly opening up to you people. I kind of feel like I know you and you know me. Like you, not you or you...you. Yeah, right there. I understand, dude. I'm glad you were willing to share. Thanks for the insight and the story. It was something. I'm glad you could help me through my thing. But unfortunately you can't get rid of the things I've seen. Sorry, it just isn't happening. I appreciate it. Luckily there is a far share of people out there willing to help others avoid a not-similar-at-all fate, even when Matt Dawgs is nowhere to be found.

 

JT

I saw the Human Centipede. It is pretty shocking and for me it's something thats hard to do. It did gross me out at times. If you watch it be prepared and make sure little Matt Dawgs isn't around.

 

            The Green Teabagger

            I saw the South Park episode. That was enough.

                        JT

                        The South Park episode is tame compared to the actual movie.

                                    The Green Teabagger

                                    I know. I also know there's a sequel.

Like I said, South Park was enough.

                                                JT

                                                I didn't know there was a sequel. I might have to check it out when it hits netflix.

                                                            Anthony.Analog

                                                            Human Centipede sucks (no pun intended). It's nowhere NEAR as gruesome as it should've been. Plus the acting is extremely campy.

 

Yeah, so we've finally reached "The Human Centipede" conversation on our forum. So sometimes the Insanity forums are a tad bit behind. Maybe sometimes people just don't like to converse about that stuff. For me, whatever, a movie is a movie. For others that film could be a traumatic experience. Glad to see the reactions go from "no", to "Sequel?" all the way to "seriously, it should've been worse."

 

I've re-opened a debate from last week's "This Week in WWI Forum History" section. I asked the insanity forums to pick the most insane thing in wrestling history. No more "the most insane WWE thing". No, we're done with that bush league stuff. We've moved up. We're adding TNA into the mix. It's been five years since the majority of the Insanity crew emphatically answered "Katie Vick...well, actually just Kane. Kane is our answer. You ask a question after we say Kane and the answer is yes." So where are we now? With the debate continuing let us just see where people stand right now... (Note: Ahhh....The Room. Where can I go where it never finds me again? I'm pretty sure Mike Johns is a kindred spirit of mine.)

 

Mike Johns

The Green Teabagger

Jun 5 2011, 08:54 AM

TNA since Hogan and Bischoff arrived.

Enough said.

if you have to go with one actual incident, it'd have to be Victory Road 11, or the fallout with the Main Event Mafia this past February. Pure incompetence on an epic scale.

But for the most part, yeah, it's Hogan/Bischoff's TNA.

 

Aaron Wood

The last post in that thread was in June 2006. Not long after Vince Russo re-joined TNA. So really, everything they've done since then, since it's been demonstrative bullshit. Just think, we're only a few months off the 5th anniversary of Vince Russo's beat attempts at tanking yet another company. The fact that TNA have survived it to this point means that not only do that have one hell of a money mark, but also that as dumb as fuck not to have gotten rid of this moron yet.

 

James Bullock

One storyline that gets a lot of slack now, but still is one of the stupidest things I remember seeing was "I choppy, choppy your pee pee". Not only did I see naked man ass, but had to sit through a week of friends asking me what I thought would happen on next Monday. Being a 13 year old kid, and having all my wrestling conversations for a week revolve around a man possibly getting his dick chopped off is one of my least favorite life experiences; right up there with my ex continually getting her friends to sing "No Scrubs" at me and my friends every time we entered the same room.

 

Sprout1883

Mea Young giving birth

 

Mike Johns

TheGreatWhiteDope

Jun 6 2011, 06:39 AM

So the majority of people still aren't thinking Katie Vick was the worst?

Jeff Hardy, zonked out of his mind, being allowed to work a 90 second main event on PPV with no backup plan, or a guy humping a mannequin in a casket on TV?

Sheer professional incompetence trumps a stupid angle in bad taste any day.

 

Johnny Craze

Aaron Wood

Jun 6 2011, 04:35 PM

Fuck, that garbage on TNA with Anderson, who is Number one contender on a supposedly major PPV, dressed as Sting losing to ERIC FRIGGIN' YOUNG, who iis dressed as Muta thanks to botched interference from GUNNER was WAY more moronic than Katie Vick.

I have to disagree. Katie Vick stands as the dumbest and strangest angle I have ever seen. To me, nothing comes close right now...not even in TNA!

            Mike Johns

            That's not even the most insane thing I saw on TNA last week!

I think I nearly had a brain aneurysm trying to figure out how someone changes their name from Brother Ray to Bully Ray because he's insecure about his penis size.

 

The Green Teabagger

I think Mike Johns nailed it.

Jeff Hardy.
Victory Road.
90 seconds.

 

Slimjames

Allowing someone to work a ppv, nevermind the friggin' MAIN EVENT in a conditional "unable to perform" is something you would never see in WWE in a bajillion years. Meanwhile, I could conceive of Eric Young recreating Katie Vick next week on Impact with no context.

 

The Green Teabagger

Eric Young beating Anderson surprised me, but in a weird logical way....Eric Young is the TNA Television Champion, which TNA does treat as its number two singles title. In that odd WAY WAY OUTSIDE THE BOX way, Eric Young beating Anderson clean wasn't horrifying.


If it were Gunner beating Sting clean though.....

 

James Guttman

Katie Vick still wins over everything. There were so many problems with it. Not only did it kill Kane's character by undermining nearly six years of work to build, but it also managed to provide one of the dumbest segments in history. Triple H mocks his opponent by dressing up like him and humping a dummy in a coffin. That makes sense. It's like when Eric Cartman put Butters' d**k in his mouth while he was asleep and took a picture, thinking it would make everyone laugh at Butters for being gay.

Even worse was how they defended it, which is lost to history. Like any angle in wrestling - no matter how bad - people at the time tried to portray it as if the wrestling media "didn't get it. They said it was just too "edgy" for us. I forget who it was, maybe Vince, who said it was no different than "Six Feet Under" - proving he knew nothing more than that Six Feet Under was about dead people and funerals and just filled in the blanks himself.

Awful. Just awful on ten different levels.

Jeff Hardy's 90 second main event is probably my #2. But at least that was over in 90 seconds. Katie Vick took like six friggin' weeks.

 

The Green Teabagger

 

wolfchild

Jun 8 2011, 05:56 PM

Can we look into the future for a minute and nominate Hogan/Sting on Impact? Cause that's gonna be off the wall nuts...

on Impact? You're giving them way too much credit.

           

Mike Johns

wolfchild

Jun 8 2011, 07:58 PM

Would it actually surprise you if it was on Impact? With little or no hype what so ever?

Still... I'm sure you're right. And I'm still pre-nominating it

Seriously, guys, that match is going to be nothing.

Just take the Starrcade 97 match, and play it in super slow motion. Then mute the commentary, and play a loop of Tommy Wiseau saying "Oh HAI" to people, then asking about their sex life, imitating a chicken, claiming he did not hit Lisa (he did NAUT), then saying "Oh HAI" to Mark again, laughing at an inappropriate story Mark tells (which you can include if you want), telling Denny that it's okay to love someone, deep down in their heart, screaming at various intervals about how everyone has lied to him and betrayed him, all while making sure, the moment Hogan drops the leg, he screams out, "YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, LISA!!!"

You're tearing me APART LISA!



Then, have Lisa's mom drone over and over again about how "that's not right" when Bret throws his hissy fit. Then have Lisa bitch back at her when Bret argues with the referee, then Tommy comes back with "Don't touch me, motherfucker!" when Bret punches the ref out. With the match restarted, you play Tommy's final tantrum where he wrecks "the Room", and when Hogan taps, the gun shot goes off, and Denny screams "Johnny's dead!"

If you want a second voice on commentary, just have Mark ask "what's going on here?" every so often.

 

 

Mike Johns

The Green Teabagger

Jun 8 2011, 08:44 PM

What about when Hogan wins the title?

you stop the tape when Nick Patrick counts the pin. Then, you watch every single love scene in the room, beginning to end, back to back to back, without stopping or cutting to anything else until the very last note of You Are my Rose stops and you've seen every bit of Tommy Wiseau's naked ass.

When you finally come to, either TNA will be out of business, or Hogan will be in a wheelchair.

 

 

This Week in WWI Forum History

You need to feel better don't you? Are you feeling sick right about now? Human Centipede, The Room these things will send a man into a true psychotic rage. But I have something you can totally do to ease all of that. We're going to follow Time Writer rules, which are just plain silly, and go back three years. Got your cell-phone handy? Are you going to be watching Raw? Do you have one of those custom call back tones? You know where until you pick up the caller hears the Ghostbusters theme, because if you do Vinnie is going to hang up on your ass. That's right. Three years ago this week it was the Vince McMahon Million Dollar Giveaway.

 

Vince McMahon Million Dollar Giveaway Week One - June 6th, 2008

Quote:

When Raw rolls into Oakland, Calif., on Monday night, Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho has high hopes that Shawn Michaels will be there to join him on a special episode of the Highlight Reel.

In recent weeks, Y2J has been sending mixed signals. During his Judgment Day Match against Michaels, Jericho chomped at the notion of taking out The Showstopper. Then, at One Night Stand, Jericho willed Michaels on in his losing effort against Batista. And last week, Y2J even dedicated his match against JBL to a recovering Michaels.

What exactly does the Intercontinental Champion have in mind by inviting HBK onto the Highlight Reel? And exactly which Chris Jericho will show up?

On a more moneyed note, Mr. McMahon explained last week that he's poised to give out $1 million of his own money to show his appreciation to loyal Raw viewers in McMahon's Million Dollar Mania sweepstakes. Register and tune in for your chance to win a share of the Chairman's loot.

In other Raw action, John Cena defeated Jeff Hardy last week and won an opportunity to face Triple H for the WWE Title at Night of Champions. In the lead up to the pay-per-view, how will these two opponents prove their dominance? And which of them will capture the momentum in the run-up to Night of Champions?

If all that weren't enough, don't forget the seismic shift that's sure to occur in two weeks when WWE holds its brand-wide draft
.

 

ThinkSoJoe

VINCE GOT RICKROLLED!

 

AyatollahBlassie

LMAO ..this is going well ...

 

ThinkSoJoe

He got RickRolled again!

 

SabuIsGod

Oh how I would love to be the meat in a sandwich with Beth and Mickie as the bread....

 

ThinkSoJoe

Damn, that sounded like my number.

SabuIsGod

AyatollahBlassie

Jun 9 2008, 08:20 PM

I've lost respect for Mickie ..She has the stench of Cena on her ..

as opposed to the stench of Raven that she used to have on her? Or Kenny Dykstra? +o(

 

ThinkSoJoe

AyatollahBlassie

Jun 9 2008, 08:24 PM

This McMoney lottery is tremendously exciting ..ratings should be through the roof ...

I don't know about the ratings going through the roof, but I agree with you that it's exciting!

            FritzStephey

            never before have I wanted the phone to ring more...

                        AyatollahBlassie

                        I was being sarcastic ..I couldn't give a rat's ass about it ..haha

 

Fritz Stephey

Charles McLucha Haas!! He better call me...think of all the heat reviews...

 

T-Dog

Vince fails at using a telephone.

 

NidiaFan

WTF? Looks like Vince doesn't use a phone too much.

 

Fritz Stephey

She said it wrong! She said WVE Niverse...FTL

 

AyatollahBlassie

Who needs quality matches when we can watch Vince's life and death struggles against a telephone..

 

SabuIsGod

"Bad Luck Charlie"? Didnt he wrestle in mid-south for Lawler in the early 90's?

So who else is Mr. McMoney gonna misdial tonight? Or will his personal secretary have to come out and use that primitive communication device for him?

 

AyatollahBlassie

Jericho's being condescending ..a good sign ...

 

Fritz Stephey

THIS is the Jericho we want!!!!

 

ThinkSoJoe

He just smashed the obscenely expensive Jeritron 6000 HD!

 

NidiaFan

Somewhere, Mary Jannetty is smiling.

 

T-Dog

Not the Obscenely Expensive Jeritron 6000 in HD!

 

Dav

As a brit denied the chance of winning Vince's money, this has been a horribly boring Raw. Utter tripe, how does Vince think he's going to get ratings by putting on a TV show where he spends half an hour calling some randomers?

 

Canadian Bulldog

Fritz Stephey

Jun 9 2008, 10:12 PM

Up to this point...this has been the worst idea ever...

call me next week, Vince...

Why is it the worst idea ever?

They've pretty much guaranteed a captive audience that, in theory at least, should be larger than the average week's show. If the ratings suck again this and next week, then yeah, it was a waste of time.

But what I did like about this week's show -- the McMoney segments replaced pretty much all of the dumb backstage vignettes. Not to say that watching Vince McMahon struggle to place a conference call wasn't a little painful, but at least the remainder of the show was focused on decent matches and one decent angle

T-Dog

Raw dark match result....very interesting....

Quote:

The dark match for Raw was Lance Cade vs. Brian Danielson (yes, that Brian Danielson). Cade came out first with full intro and Danielson came out after and was announced from Oakland. The crowd was really into this match and it was a good 12 minute back and forth match. It looked like Cade was going to win, but Danielson got him into the Cattle Mutilation and Cade tapped out which was a welcome surprise. Danielson looked really good in the match and the crowd was behind him (most likely due to that fact that he was in his "hometown.")

 

 

The Chosen 1

Here's how you know I'm an ass, haha,

When Vince mentioned Lillian's measurements, I immediately thought he was gonna make her take her shirt off and got a little disgusted that they were gonna do something so sleazy... then she didnt... and i was pissed cuz i wanted to see her boobies, haha.

 

And now we're moving back just one year from today. It's a weird jump. Look at where WWE is right now. Do you remember what was happening right now last year? NXT Season one had just ended. We are a year removed from the debut of The Nexus. Yeah, that was kind of a big deal last year. We're also one year removed from something that blew the insanity forum up. Let's go take a look back at the situation.

 

Bryan Danielson Released - June 11th 2011

 

WolfChild

Quote:

WWE has come to terms on the release of NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) as of today June 11, 2010. We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors.



God I hope this is a swerve....

 

RDLee

If this is not a part of the NXT invasion angle than Vince McMahon is a f***ing moron. My instinct is that it's only a swerve.

 

The Green Teabagger

I doubt its a swerve. I don't think they would bother putting it in their news section if it was. Technically, the NXT losers were already "future endeavored" since they didn't win the competition.

If nothing else, he'll be TNA's X-Division (or possibly Global) champion in 91 days.

 

The Chosen 1

He is ESSENTIAL for this NXT Invasion theyve got going here... if this is real, then just like every other time WWE has ever done anything to get me excited for something on their show it gets ruined within 2 weeks.

 

Nelsolo

The timing of this announcement is so weird.
Also, if it indeed is a work, why fire him and not the others?
Then there's Danielson's Twitter last night: "Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring." I haven't seen much of last week's RAW, but I hear Barrett said something similar that night, talking about winds and change and whatnot.

 

Aaron Wood

According to F4W, everyone internally is being told it's a legit release, so either they're working the company or the firing is legit. Either way, it's a complete WTF moment.

 

Shooting

I'm not a fan of people getting fired but I never liked the guy.
I just hope it isn't a swerve

 

The Chosen 1

Aaron Wood

Jun 12 2010, 02:27 AM

Meltzer is reporting that the reason he was fired is because of his choking of Justin Roberts with his tie on Monday, an action that was deemed too violent for the current mindset.

So he can't get a warning?

Its funny, all week I've been watching that saying over and over "I really wish it wasn't Bryan who was choking Roberts" for different reasons thought obviously..

What a stupid reason if this is true... I swear, any time WWE does something interesting they end it for a reason that couldn't even possibly justify ending it.

 

Aaron Wood

On the forum, Meltzer has said that someone very powerful will have made a complaint that was too much to ignore, so they had to scapegoat him, but the belief is that he'll be asked to come back when the fuss made dies down from whoever it was that complained, someone that Meltzer isn't aware of yet.

Whether he wants to come back at that point though, for me, is a different story.

 

ZAH

It's intriguing either way. WWE realizes just how popular Danielson is with a lot of their hardcore (i.e. non-casual) fans, so to fire somebody for pretending to choke someone with a tie (?????) just seems overly excessive, even by WWE standards.

If it's legit, then fuck WWE and Danielson is better off without 'em if that's how they're going to act.

I mean, if you're going to give direction on a beatdown then GIVE DIRECTION: "no choking with foreign objects". Don't tell a bunch of guys to lay waste to everything in their path and then fire one of them for doing what he was told.

I'm hoping it's a swerve, though. And if it is, kudos to WWE for making us all buy into it to the point where we're questioning things.

 

M.O.D.

He'll be back. Linda McMahon is in the middle of her senate run, and the backlash spurned over him violently (go watch it again... it was pretty intense) choking out an announcer w/ a tie when they're under such a political microscope meant that they had no choice but to act. He'll be back in a month, and they'll use this to further develop his character. The WWE is NOT stupid, they're working on multiple political fronts right in all this... the absolute LAST thing they're going to let happen is for Bryan to go to fucking TNA.

 

Bundorama

Actually, the more I think of it, the dumber it gets. Linda resigns from The WWE because she wanted to distance herself from the product, yet the product still remains PG, even though she's not a part of The WWE anymore. Well, it seems to me she should be just as, if not more afraid of her opponent digging up some of the crazy shit that happened during The Attitude /Boom Era, when she WAS a part of The WWE, you know? At least now if The WWE went back to "TV-14", she can say she is no longer a part of WWE, so it's irrelevant. I don't know....

 

Matt Dawgs

It's mainly cause the tie reminded people in power of "He Who Shall Not Be Named". Unless he is working his friends, I hear through the grapevine that it's legit.

 

Aliasyoshi

If that is the reason (the tie, the politics, the whatever) I hate to say it, but I am done. I was like 10 when they had all of the stupid characters around and it was like "G" rating before ratings existed. I cannot take this anymore. I personally choose not to use "foul" language and what not, but come freakin' on. This is FAKE PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING!!!! No choking with a tie? No use of language? No blood, ever? No finishing moves? I mean, come on.

 

BlackFrancisFan

So much for trying something different and reality-based...

 

Bmartin

When I saw him choking Roberts with that tie I thought it was awesome... I only watched the angle on youtube but I was definitely going to tune in next monday to see how it progressed. This is most disappointing. I understand the move but it's a shame that national politics is affecting the politics in the WWE. It's too much politics to keep up with.

 

Slimjames

So two positive drug tests: 60 Day suspension. Choke a guy with a tie: What are you, crazy? You're so fired!

I really think a release is a bit excessive. Even a (normally) excessive suspension would be more appropriate than firing a guy for daring venture into...TV-14 areas!

 

RDLee

I still hope it's a work. JUST when everyone gets excited about something in wrestling again, WWE fucks with it for no real reason. The whole point of the invasion angle was to suspend belief, it worked and now this?

Hell, when I was a child I saw Randy Savage get bit by a f***ing snake on WWF tv. I didn't cry about it or consider getting a snake to bite one of my friends. But I guess that just means I wasn't a dumb ass like most (not all) kids are today. lol.

 

James Guttman

They caught a lot of s*** over that snake angle. That's why they had to put that red X on it in the replays. The big sticking point was the close-ups.

 

RDLee

That dumb lesbian Heath Slater choked Cena with the ring ropes while he was laying on the ground, let's fire his bitch tit's ass too then!

If they wanted to really enforce a PG rating, then there would be no more WWE Divas showing cleavage or camel toes on a weekly basis either. It's all bullshit.

I am so fired up today! This is why I am becoming a UFC fan more and more every day. I'm tired of being disappointed all the time.

 

Aliasyoshi

I am sure some will disagree, and I understand where WWE is coming from here, but really?! I can almost bet that if they just let it go and just edited out whatever, nobody (or nobody who matters) would throw a hissy fit about ol' what's his name and choking.

 

RDLee

It's WWE's responsibility to let these guys know what they can and can't do. It's not fair for him to get let go because he did something that helped make the angle look more believable without knowing any better. It's no different than me hiring someone to work my cash register and then firing them after they take a check when I never mentioned not to take them.

 

Mike Johns

What's amazing is, people are only seeing Benoit in this because they WANT to see Benoit in this. Hell, I saw it and thought "Damn... they're taking out the ring announcer, too? Jeez! Talk about having no mercy!" If anything, it was a great way to advance the angle - take out EVERYBODY. And hell, like someone on here already said, the tie choke was pretty silly, in context.


It's stuff like this that really upsets me, because no one has any balls to stand up and make a declarative creative statement and stand with it. And for what? Something that, in the context of what was happening, was actually pretty silly? When it all comes down to it, the ONLY reason this is controversial is because someone WANTS it to be. And WWE, who should be smart enough to see these people as the idiots they are, caves, only giving people more power to do this later.


South Park had this pretty on the money with the Cartoon Wars 2-parter. Once you make a distinction over what is okay to show and what isn't, people will always try to make you censor something else. Then something else. Then something else. Things that, for the most part, don't really offend anyone. And damn them to hell if it does! True Art is SUPPOSED to offend SOMEONE. Otherwise, you're not creating anything worth a damn.

 

RowdyRodimus

Honestly I see it as just an excuse to get rid of the internet darling so Vince can just say "Fuck you" to us and prove that he doesn't need the IWC when he has all the 12 year olds buying everything he's selling. It's one of the reasons I really don't give a shit about WWE for the most part.

 

Mike Johns

 

 

 

RDLee

 

 

This continues on for awhile. So if you want to see what all the hubbub is about that you'll forget about next year...why not join the Insanity Forum? If last year, seriously that was only a year old, image the insane thing you'll be ranting and raving about sometime this year.

 

 


 

 

ROWDY RODIMUS

 

WWE continues to show that, while they are the biggest Entertainment company in wrestling today, the real meat and potatoes of the company is their vast library of past wrestling shows from a variety of companies. In the past they've done the "Rise and Fall" type collections that served as a backwards compliment to the history of companies such as ECW, World Class Championship Wrestling, AWA and of course their biggest competitor WCW, but these always ended up serving a purpose to show that WWE (and more importantly Vince McMahon himself) can't be beaten.

Last week marked the first time that WWE has released a DVD of nothing but matches that focused on just one show from their former competitors (not counting PPV's) in the form of The Very Best of WCW Nitro. The members of the Insanity Galaxy(tm) were quick to take note on two things, the appearance of Chris Benoit on an official WWE DVD release and the host (Former ClubWWI Guest) Diamond Dallas Page.

TheGreatWhiteDope

The Very Best of WCW Nitro
So....I'm midway through disc two. I'm at Raven showing up and kinda stalking DDP. Which leads to Uncensored Benoit/DDP/Raven (one of my favorite matches ever) and umm.....
they should kinda re-name this whole DVD "Remember the NWO? Seriously, do you remember them? Well check this out." The 3-Disc Collection
Also the Horsemen parody thing...was just really weird....not funny...more awkward.

James Bullock

I skimmed through the 1st disc last night, and your sentiments couldn't be truer. But that's understandable when you look at the time covered in the 1st disc. The one thing that shocked me was the showing of Benoit. Anything involving him that couldn't be cut, I expected to see a huge blur or black box.

Rowdy Rodimus

I think enough time has passed that if they show Benoit without drawing attention to him it's ok. Now we'll never see a Best of Benoit DVD but considering the work he did in his career you can't have a Best of Whatever Show set without putting him in it.

Aaron Wood

In terms of Benoit, as noted, it's not showcasing him as a performer and individual. I think the context and time gives them a pass here.

In terms of it being nWo-heavy, when you consider that WCW went from 1995 to 2001, and the nWo angle ran, in it's various forms, from 1996 to 2000, then it can hardly come as a surprise that the release is nWo heavy.

The Great White Dope

real quick just to add: DDP needs some sort of full-time job at the WWE. He is still crazy energetic. Perfect host for this collection.

Mike Johns

sometimes, with some people, the "want to" shines through. DDP may not have been X Y and 12, but he wanted it. That's what you're seeing - the guy's heart.

You take a guy with heart and a decent work ethic, and put him with a "can actually do" guy like Bret or Sting, and you have an easy 4-star match when both guys are healthy.

Plus, you start wrestling at 35, you're going for broke.

(Finally one of the non writers for the site chimed in, with something simple yet elegant in it's description of Page)

galaxy

DDP was always one of the better wrestlers in WCW, I thought.

Monday had it's usual Monday Night Raw thread and let's kick it off with...

Johnny Craze

Tonight on raw, R-Truth must apologize for his actions last week in order to get a WWE Championship opportunity at Capital Punishment. Hopefully, little Jimmy won't come out.

Johnny Craze

what in the blue hell is R-Truth doing?

Wolfchild

Ok, Truth makes this segment. Austin and McMahon in the same ring, not fighting, is just wrong...

Really

Average

I'm a little bit behind on the DVR, but this "ole negro" gimmick R-Truth is using is freaking gold.

TheGreenTeaBagger

You know what?

I just realized something.

There's one big thing I'm going to miss about Kharma, at least for a year.

The potential....

KharMarella.

JT

Raw is the #1 show on cable?

Over on History they say that Pawn Stars is the #1 show on cable.

(The GreenTeaBagger let all of us 10%'ers that Bischoff talks about know the one thing that really matters)

Zack Ryder announced that his WWE Internet Championship is NOT on the line against Kofi Kingston tonight.

 

Now that I am 90% done with my debut on the site, I want to thank you all for your patience. One thing I want people to know is that this is a lot harder than you'd think it is. I hope that you liked my part of the column and don't think that I'll be offended at any suggestions you can give me in the comments below or in the forums. Now, I shall leave you with a few Random Thoughts and a special award that I will give out from week to week. Thank you again for allowing me to be a part of all our insanity.

Bmartin

Remember that one time the world was supposed to end and it didn't?

Good times.

RowdyRodimus

Good thing God created Ebay. Just ordered an old Olympia electric (the kind Harlan Ellison uses) for $25 with shipping and it comes with two extra ribbons. I had one until we got our first computer and my dad figured he could give the typewriter away, so I made him pay for this one. Serves him WRITE (get it? HAHAHAHA I kill me). The moral of the story? Never put peanut butter where you don't want the dog to lick.

Drewcifer

Read that again, but imagine Dusty Rhodes saying it.

And finally I give you

The Stan Lee Memorial 'Nuff Said Comment of the Week

ZAH

Smackdown is still on the air?

More than that...this site actually reviews it???

Huh...

TheGreenTeabagger

You don't realize that because you avoid any and all Aaron Wood articles.

ZAH

Which makes me a fuckin' genius, really.

Congratulations, ZAH! I present you the inaugural...

 


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