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Hot Threads: Greedy Little Jenny, Who The F*** Is Jacob Novak?, Slammiversary Matters, Bull is Back, Foodstampsgate, and More
THE GREAT WHITE DOPE
This past week the Wrestling Insanity Message Boards and you were treated to a very special, scheduled, and planned three hour edition of Raw. With this treat we were also promised one very certain thing: Ryder or Riot. Luckily, Cena lost. They at least did enough to stop New York from turning Canadian for a day. Granted, just like in real life, anytime you plan for anything in Long Island, you leave completely disappointed in more ways than you ever thought possible. (JG Note: Shut up)
JohnnyCraze
Cena vs Punk...poor Punk
Wolfchild
Oh great. Now Cena gets to beat Punk. Later.
TheGreenTeabagger
Could be worse.
The Green Teabagger
I bet Ricardo Rodriguez sells the Stunner better than anyone ever, even Santino.
JohnnyCraze
Holy shit, I've never seen Show run so fast!
The Green Teabagger
Big Show hasn't run that fast since someone told him Arby's giving away Roast Beef sandwiches three for a dollar.
T-Dog
TNA should have taken notes off that last segment. That's how you book an angry babyface.
WolfChild
Can't Daniel Bryan just work the whole match? I'd be fine with that.
The Green Teabagger
Kelly Kelly referring to ANYONE as a two-bagger is like Mark Henry calling someone fat.
T-Dog
R-Truth should put Hornswoggle on a leash and make him his own personal Little Jimmy.
WolfChild
Can I just say I really hope Truth beats Cena for the title. I know he won't, but god do I really hope he does.
TheGreenTeabagger
We Want Ryder
JT
HOLY S*** SANTINO HIT THE COBRA ON SHEAMUS!!!!
Hey look it's the guy who stole Christian's title!
Wolfchild
I swear, I have to turn on closed captioning just to understand what Booker says half the time. And sometimes it doesn't even help! My CC just gets confused...
JT
Roddy Piper still awesome!
Wolfchild
Why is it I cringe when I think about Hogan/Sting but I'm okay with Miz/Piper?
PeterDawson
Still focusing on Hockey but damn, Miz had the balls to crap on They Live? I'd beat him black and blue for saying BS like that.
T-Dog
So now that's over, time for the important question to be answered.
WolfChild
We're two and a half hours in and not one stunner has been delivered. That's just wrong.
TheGreenTeabagger
Austin's going to stun the laptop
JohnnyCraze
Punk just beat Cena!!!! Holy crap.
PeterDawson
Aye, it should be noted that USA does push for quite a few of the 3-hour Raws. We have have the network to thank for the revival of King of the Ring really, not that it really helped Sheamus much.
Average
CM/Cena was freaking awesome. Some Saturday Night Main Event s*** right there.
Ravnos
No Ryder in L.I. Do you think those people with the signs actually rioted?
Aaron Wood
Steve Austin doling out Stunners on TV in this day and age is, outside of certain conditions, totally counterproductive. Christ, it was counterproductive in 2004. Because NO-ONE is EVER allowed to get any heat on him. They haven't since, at least 2002. And it's the nature of the Stone Cold character that if you do actually "wrong" him, he comes back and kicks your ass anyway.
Next week, Miz should do a segment where he writes Roddy Piper a check for $5,000 in the ring. He should say, "I want everyone to be my witness that I'm paying off this debt. I'm going to overnight this check to Piper. From the looks of things, he clearly needs it more than I do. I just got my Wrestlemania bonus. Do you want to know how much I got paid to WIN the Main Event of Wrestlemania XXVII? Really? Really? Well, I'm not going to tell you, but I promise that it was more than most of you pathetic worms make in five years."
T-Dog
Drewcifer
Awwwww...Being a Little Jimmy isn't all it's cracked up to be
James Bullock
Greedy little Jenny. You already have a red Cena shirt. Why do you need another? Now I see why Johnny got got. It's because of people like you who want, and want, and want! SHAZAM!
Aaron Wood
I was about to type that. Word for word.
JohnnyCraze
I wonder how that works. Is there really a message on the computer?
The Chosen 1
From what ive seen from bad camera angles it looks like everything cole has to say for the night is written on some kind of word document (its just a blank page with the words on it) and the beeps are just cues for cole to pretend he got an email..... He actually seemed to mess up for the first time during the Orton & Christian thing and start reading a message before the beep
XArsenicKissx
See, I thought that the bad camera angles were intentional. From what I recall, the first few times the gimmick was used, the odd bad shot showed that a script was being read. When people started picking up on this, every camera angle was bad and the script was beyond obvious. You only have to look at what he is looking at to see he's generally not looking at the screen at all.
One problem in this field of entertainment is that people come and go on a whim. You may enjoy a wrestler one minute and the next he is out on the indies.
Other times people you've never even had the chance to hear of never get their chance to make a name. Either way you can guarantee one thing: there will always be someone who totally knows about all of them and is disappointed.
Aaron Wood
So yeah, WWE news. They've released Michael Tarver and Jacob Novak over the weekend. So yeah, in the end, Tarver was hanging around backstage for nothing, and they turned Novak into a white JTG for pretty much the same.
JohnnyCraze
How many original members are left now of Nexus?
Mike Johns
Under contract? All but Tarver. Tarver's the only one axed right now.
JohnnyCraze
I guess some of the other's are injured.
Shooting
Nah only Skip is hurt
Mike Johns
Skip Sheffield's supposed getting yet another surgery and going to be out even longer. Darren Young, last I saw, was doing Superstars tapings. The rest of them are either Corre, Nexus, or Daniel Bryan.
Peter Dawson
A pity, but it does make sense. In spite of Tarver's grand build-up back on NXT Season 1 he wasn't really that interesting. Really his bandanna was his best feature come Nexus. Novak wasn't exactly worth writing about either.
Shooting
Jacob Novak could of been a star if given the time. He was on NXT way too soon.
Squirrelz!!
Jacob Novak would've never been a star. That guy was a charismatic as the navy blue suspenders the old guy that sits at the mall outside the food court wears.
AliasYoshi
I hate to be "that guy", but isn't Scorpion the one that harpoons his opponent?
Peter Dawson
It is indeed and, just to top you, these days it tends to be less of a harpoon and more of a small blade like a kunai or a dagger. NERD SLAM!
ZAH
I actually liked Tarver. He couldn't wrestle very well, but he was great on the stick and had a unique look. It's really a shame managers aren't given legit roles anymore. Tarver could have done well.
RowdyRodimus
Who the fuck is Jacob Novak and should I care that I don't know who he is?
James Bullock
I just got flashes of Chappelle's Show because of that question.
The Green Teabagger
Nobody, and no you shouldn't.
Sunday is Capital Punishment. We may not have a main event. Random things are just happening around the WWE Universe. So, of course, internet theories come out quickly.
Peter Dawson
So apparently the Randy Orton concussion bit is real. Turns out he got knocked out for real in Spain and may actually not be able to face Christian on Sunday. Gonna be interesting to see what they do if he's not cleared... actually have a couple of heels fight for the title (IE Christian and Sheamus)? Bring in an unexpected face? Not even have a heavyweight title match since Orton will have still defended the title within 30 days and won't have until a week or two later?
The Great White Dope
"backstage attack" that then gets Christian to win by default and the title or something.
RowdyRodimus
Wouldn't that be an awesome new gimmick for Christian? Think about it, it's a perfect continuation of the "Ultimate Opportunist" that they used with Edge. While Edge just took advantage of a situation, Christian makes the situations happen himself. They could also get people that don't get air time (such as Zach Ryder, a former Edgehead, right?) to be his minions to do his dirty work and take advantage of the situation. That way you get new guys involved in the main event picture while not having to have them go over the established guys and hurting their ego and they get experience at the same time.
Aaron Wood
Here's how I see it.
And with that this week we move on to everything else out there in the internet. I apologize for the lack of a history in WWI section this week. My work schedule has been slightly daunting and I just haven't had the time to find the quality posts around. Next week, it shall return and be gigantic. So for now, don't forget to join the WWI forums and even the WWI Fantasy Wrestling Game. Unlike the Impact Fantasy game, you get three companies worth of a roster all in one place.
Rowdy Rodimus
Folks check for dogs and cats living together, blood running from you water tap, locusts devouring your greenery and just general signs of the end times. I am going to break with tradition and begin by saying something good about TNA/Impact Wrestling. Sundays Slammiversary PPV was, in my opinion, one of the better PPV's I've seen this year. Now if they could provide the type of show that they gave us Sunday every week on Impact, I wouldn't have to make a disclaimer when I say something good about the promotion. But enough about what I thought of the PPV and what it means for the company, let's see what you had to say.
Average You people watch the Chyna porno but not this?
The Green Teabagger
I'm never going to watch that horror show full of unspeakable disturbing things that can never be unseen.
JT I wont watch the Chyna porno, and I'm done with TNA and have been for almost a year now.
TXL
Saw most of the PPV, and it was pretty good, actually! Even though the ending was awful, and it was questionable he was champion in the first place, Sting has absolutely NOT mailed it in at 52 (or however old he is). Impressive showing in his match with Anderson.
Mike Johns You know, if these shows didn't have things like continuity and storylines bogging them down, the shows are actually pretty good.It's the moment you're expected, for any reason, to care about what's going on and why when this show falls apart.
PeterDawson
I'm just glad the champ is actually someone new again, granted Anderson is a 2-timer, but by new I mean a guy who'd never been champ in another company before TNA. I'm still really annoyed he lost to Hardy only for Hardy to get trounced by Sting. Plus, in spite of some of his character feeling like a pale imitation of better guys, Anderson's not that bad with his gimmick. I'll take him over Rob Van Dam anyhow.
(RR Note#1: And here is where the thread breaks away from the PPV to discussing Highlander for half a page. Oh and Highlander ended after the first one, the rest were crap.)
Average Also, too much Anderson/Sting and not enough AJ/Ray in this thread.
(RR Note #2: I agree and think Ray has been the best part of TNA for the last few months)
PeterDawson
Well AJ/Ray felt like a bit of a waste of time. Granted Ray may end up in the title picture too at some point, given he is one of their more over heels, but I just didn't care. AJ hasn't been used well since... hrmm... some point in 2010 before he dropped the title?
Mike Johns
Ray won the match designed for the babyface to win and end the feud. Which means the feud is continuing. And going to end with a normal match.
With the PPV in the bag we were let in on the big tournament catch for Octobers Bound For Glory PPV during Impact on Thursday night. As Mike Tenay would say, the point system is quite simple really (RR note #3: Yeah if you are Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man) and is as follows: Submission Victory 10 Points Pinfall Victory 7 Points Countout Victory 5 Points DQ Victory 3 Points Draw 2 Points DQ -10 Points
So what did people think about this Team Challenge Series 2.0?
Aaron Wood Makes about as much sense as their fantasy league scoring.
PeterDawson Eh, I can kind of understand the logic, if indeed I can use that word, behind the numbers. Submissions are arguably harder to pull off than pins, likewise count-outs versus DQs but you still have to rank them below the first two since that's not really what wrestling is about. Don't really know how you can get a draw aside from a double count-out... still, I guess it works to have a low number that can given to each guy. That's really the one that seems odd. I will praise them for the -10 for being DQed.
Mike Johns
And people complained about how the King of the Mountain was complicated...
Here's the perfect strategy to win the BFG series.
Aaron Wood
If you can. just listen to the latest audio on F4W, where Meltzer, while admitting there are positives, points out how insanely horrible this is going to end up being.
Most of us have heard the stories of TNA wrestlers taking a job on the side, which kind of breaks the illusion of being big stars. Even though they aren't WWE level you'd at least think the people on international TV shows and PPV's would make a livable wage. Now, being a highly trained investigative journalist (read I can spell and use grammar correctly 85% of the time) following in the footsteps of the the other journalists on the site, I have uncovered a story that shows the disregard TNA management has for it's employees in financial arrangements.
RowdyRodimus
As a sign of how little TNA pays, this was a tweet from one of their tag team wrestlers a few hours ago
This series of Tweets made headlines at other sites and news organizations, but as always we here in the WWI Galaxy (Home of ClubWWI.com and such shows as Bull Buchanan's Bullpen, Club for the Gold with everyone's favorite French Maid, Fifi and future WWE Hall of Famer Paul Roma's Glorious. All for less than the cost of a 12 pack of Bud.) are in on it first and more importantly, more accurate in our statements on things such as
Average Seriously, look for a new line of work or negotiate a better contract. Don't complain to me that your dream job pays for shit.
Markus Ramius
seriously... how the hell do people keep defending Dixie Carter and TNA as being a company that cares about anything. and secondly... why the hell doesn't the talent just walk out, they would probably make more on unemployment or welfare than working for TNA.
Mike Johns
Because TNA is still a more reliable payout than many independent promoters.
TheGreatWhiteDope (I know him from somewhere, I just know it)
also this. Actually probably 95% this.
Galaxy The Jesse Neal stuff is sad.
ZAH
I hope this gets picked up elsewhere, too. It's a story that needs to be told.
TheGreatWhiteDope the fucker is on the team for one week and is already starting shit.
(RR Note #4: It's called Journalism)
James "The Godfather" Guttman
The pure stupidity of it all gets to me. I mean, you're an independent contractor. Why would you tarnish your own brand for no reason? When you're in the public eye, Twitter should mostly be a PR tool to interact with fans. Think about it rationally. Who would want to pay money to buy a wrestling show featuring someone they know qualifies for food stamps? So much for "larger than life".
Did I happen to mention ClubWWI? If I have let me tell you that if you are a fan of the site, wrestling, soap operas, Batman or Ninjas a subscription to the Club is the best money you will ever spend. Not only are there the Award Winning shoots with James Guttman (The RowdyRodimus Award of Merit 2008,2010) but there are the Star Hosted shows, and not just the stars of WWI like Canadian Bulldog, Mike Johns, James Bullock and Jason Winters, I mean stars such as Paul Roma, Fifi the Maid and this week's big return, Bull Buchanan.
James "The Boss" Guttman
"The whole argument is that Vince killed the business. Well, maybe he did, but he started a whole new one."
THE BULL IS BACK!
RDLee Awesome. I love hearing from Bull. He is a legit dude.
Aaron Wood You mean he has a penis?
RDLee You sound awfully interested. Aaron Wood I'd only be interested to know how you know for sure that Bull has a wang.
RDLee
The fact that you keep on digging into this proves you are way too interested in knowing about Bull's genitalia.
James Bullock (In the James Earl Jones-like voice) "TNA: Where wrestling matters ... but paying our talent a living wage doesn't."
So what do you have for us, GreenTeaBagger?
The Green Teabagger
Everyone's favorite Canadian bulldog, Canadian Bulldog, has spent the better part of the last year attempting to one "Captain Suck" Aaron Wood away from his [url=
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