Rowdy Rodimus

Folks check for dogs and cats living together, blood running from you water tap, locusts devouring your greenery and just general signs of the end times. I am going to break with tradition and begin by saying something good about TNA/Impact Wrestling. Sundays Slammiversary PPV was, in my opinion, one of the better PPV's I've seen this year. Now if they could provide the type of show that they gave us Sunday every week on Impact, I wouldn't have to make a disclaimer when I say something good about the promotion. But enough about what I thought of the PPV and what it means for the company, let's see what you had to say.

Average

You people watch the Chyna porno but not this?

The Green Teabagger

I'm never going to watch that horror show full of unspeakable disturbing things that can never be unseen.
Not ever going to see that Chyna crap either.

JT

I wont watch the Chyna porno, and I'm done with TNA and have been for almost a year now.

TXL

Saw most of the PPV, and it was pretty good, actually! Even though the ending was awful, and it was questionable he was champion in the first place, Sting has absolutely NOT mailed it in at 52 (or however old he is). Impressive showing in his match with Anderson.

Also, I'm sure many people hated the end of the AJ/Bully Ray match, but I thought it was awesome (and hilarious). I completely didn't see it coming, and it should make the crowd hate Bully Ray even more, while, in my opinion, not hurting AJ a bit.

Besides a few rough spots, if you didn't take it too seriously (or pay for it yourself), a good show.

Mike Johns

You know, if these shows didn't have things like continuity and storylines bogging them down, the shows are actually pretty good.It's the moment you're expected, for any reason, to care about what's going on and why when this show falls apart.

PeterDawson

I'm just glad the champ is actually someone new again, granted Anderson is a 2-timer, but by new I mean a guy who'd never been champ in another company before TNA. I'm still really annoyed he lost to Hardy only for Hardy to get trounced by Sting. Plus, in spite of some of his character feeling like a pale imitation of better guys, Anderson's not that bad with his gimmick. I'll take him over Rob Van Dam anyhow.

Morgan winning isn't a big shock. I've been hearing for a while that he may end up in the world title picture, though when its hard to say. If I had to guess Kurt gets his title shot at Destination X and Morgan ends up in the next #1 contender's match, though they could just air some of this on Impact.

I just really hope Destination X is where Abyss finally drops the title, otherwise the devision is dead. Utterly. Not even the Necronomicon can save it at that point.

Wanted to use this thread to comment on Mike Johns' coverage of the PPV. First up, totally agree with the Mickie James MickieDDT thing. A lot of talented ring performers tend to favor easily botchable finishers when they have other perfectly fine ones. Just off the top of my head there's Sheamus with the High Cross when the Brogue Kick works great, but at least that seems to have been figured out.

Also, look up Highlander: The Source. It's quite possibly worse than Highlander 2.

(RR Note#1: And here is where the thread breaks away from the PPV to discussing Highlander for half a page. Oh and Highlander ended after the first one, the rest were crap.)

Average

Also, too much Anderson/Sting and not enough AJ/Ray in this thread.

(RR Note #2: I agree and think Ray has been the best part of TNA for the last few months)

PeterDawson

Well AJ/Ray felt like a bit of a waste of time. Granted Ray may end up in the title picture too at some point, given he is one of their more over heels, but I just didn't care. AJ hasn't been used well since... hrmm... some point in 2010 before he dropped the title?

I'm actually predicting Ray versus Morgan if the feuds are over, though they feel like they are.

Mike Johns

Ray won the match designed for the babyface to win and end the feud. Which means the feud is continuing. And going to end with a normal match.

The X gets a Hardcore Justice? Well, other than finding out whatever happened to Michael Shane/Matt Bentley, and TNA pretending for five seconds to have ever cared about the audience it cultivated in the 2000s who actually liked the X, the six sided ring, and whatnot, it certainly could be worse.

Oh, wait. Abyss is the X champ. And they sort of kinda renamed the belt.

You know the entire reason why TNA came up with their Legends/Global/TV title was because they realized they couldn't give Abyss the X belt? Yeah, two years before they finally did it, they were talking about how they needed a belt to put on Abyss, but didn;t think he was ready to be world champ.

As you know, they decided to just make him a World Champ, and postponed the idea for another two years when they realized they had built an entire roster that couldn't qualify for the X title in the time since and wanted a belt to make their old guys seem special. But, of course, they scrapped that and made the World Title revolve around the old guys, instead. Thus, the constant renaming...

But yes, the TV title supposedly exists because of a conversation that included, "But we can't seriously make Abyss the X Division champion!"

With the PPV in the bag we were let in on the big tournament catch for Octobers Bound For Glory PPV during Impact on Thursday night. As Mike Tenay would say, the point system is quite simple really (RR note #3: Yeah if you are Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man) and is as follows:

Submission Victory 10 Points

Pinfall Victory 7 Points

Countout Victory 5 Points

DQ Victory 3 Points

Draw 2 Points

DQ -10 Points

So what did people think about this Team Challenge Series 2.0?

Aaron Wood

Makes about as much sense as their fantasy league scoring.

PeterDawson

Eh, I can kind of understand the logic, if indeed I can use that word, behind the numbers. Submissions are arguably harder to pull off than pins, likewise count-outs versus DQs but you still have to rank them below the first two since that's not really what wrestling is about. Don't really know how you can get a draw aside from a double count-out... still, I guess it works to have a low number that can given to each guy. That's really the one that seems odd. I will praise them for the -10 for being DQed.

Mike Johns

And people complained about how the King of the Mountain was complicated...

You guys remember Starrcade 89? Okay, well, imagine it going on for three months.

Or, you could just go with the team challenge series reference teabagger made. You know, the series that Bischoff supposedly came up with, yet claims he had nothing to do with, yet, strangely enough, has revived here in TNA when he, strangely enough, was left in charge. Coincidence?

T-Dog

Here's the perfect strategy to win the BFG series.

-At the start of every series match, walk out and get counted out. Stay at 0 points.
-Interfere in every other series match. One guy will get 3 points and the other -10 points.
-Plan this intereference so that everyone gets DQ'ed half the time. So they gain 3 points one match (5 points against you for the countout win), then lose 10 points another match.
-If you plan correctly, everyone except you will have negative points so you get 1st place with 0 points.

Aaron Wood

If you can. just listen to the latest audio on F4W, where Meltzer, while admitting there are positives, points out how insanely horrible this is going to end up being.

Tournament matches at house shows? So not only are they likely to do the Goldberg thing of inventing matches that didn't happen, because hey, there's only going to be a few hundred witnesses to say otherwise, but it's going to be a complete mess for anyone watching at home.

There are going to be TAG TEAM matches that count towards this tournament. However, only the person that picks up the fall will get points, not the team. So, now, there is incentive for tag team to fight each other over who gets the pinfall.

They couldn't keep their top 10 rankings going more than a month or two. BOBBY LASHLEY STILL HAS A TITLE SHOT COMING TO HIM. Abyss probably has a couple in his back pocket as well.

This thing is friggin' doomed.

Most of us have heard the stories of TNA wrestlers taking a job on the side, which kind of breaks the illusion of being big stars. Even though they aren't WWE level you'd at least think the people on international TV shows and PPV's would make a livable wage. Now, being a highly trained investigative journalist (read I can spell and use grammar correctly 85% of the time) following in the footsteps of the the other journalists on the site, I have uncovered a story that shows the disregard TNA management has for it's employees in financial arrangements.

RowdyRodimus

As a sign of how little TNA pays, this was a tweet from one of their tag team wrestlers a few hours ago


"Yayyyy we qualified for food stamps!!! I can eat now! RT : Things are looking up! Just recieved some good news!!! :)"

I thought it was a joke, so I replied with this: It's a sad state of the business that you can make a joke about Food Stamps and people wonder if you are serious

(Now you can see that I didn't say anything bad about him but made a remark about how bad the industry is now that we can conceivably see an active wrestler who is on TV having to get food stamps because of the way talent is treated)

Of course his girlfriend sent a message calling me an asshole since I guess, ummm, I don't know why. But anyway, Jesse also replied back and said it wasn't a joke.

I mean, I knew TNA wasn't paying WWE money but for their guys to have to get food stamps is just sad on so many different levels.

This series of Tweets made headlines at other sites and news organizations, but as always we here in the WWI Galaxy (Home of ClubWWI.com  and such shows as Bull Buchanan's Bullpen, Club for the Gold with everyone's favorite French Maid, Fifi and future WWE Hall of Famer Paul Roma's Glorious. All for less than the cost of a 12 pack of Bud.) are in on it first and more importantly, more accurate in our statements on things such as

Average

Seriously, look for a new line of work or negotiate a better contract. Don't complain to me that your dream job pays for shit.

Markus Ramius

seriously... how the hell do people keep defending Dixie Carter and TNA as being a company that cares about anything. and secondly... why the hell doesn't the talent just walk out, they would probably make more on unemployment or welfare than working for TNA.

a blind chimp could run the company better than they are.

Mike Johns

Because TNA is still a more reliable payout than many independent promoters.

It's said a lot, especially at the Indy level - if you get into wrestling for the money, you may as well leave now. There isn't any.

TheGreatWhiteDope (I know him from somewhere, I just know it)

also this. Actually probably 95% this.

As a man who has done some indy running around. Most shows you do are free. Maybe you'll get $5 or some concessions at the end of the night. But everyone who is "local", within a hundred miles or so, is usually coming because they know the person who runs it. So they do it as kinda like "yeah you need people, and more people will see me...so opportunity."

Galaxy

The Jesse Neal stuff is sad.

ZAH

I hope this gets picked up elsewhere, too. It's a story that needs to be told.

And you gotta LOVE the iWo reference in your Twitter handle. Well done!!!

TheGreatWhiteDope

the fucker is on the team for one week and is already starting shit.

(RR Note #4: It's called Journalism)

James "The Godfather" Guttman

The pure stupidity of it all gets to me. I mean, you're an independent contractor. Why would you tarnish your own brand for no reason? When you're in the public eye, Twitter should mostly be a PR tool to interact with fans. Think about it rationally. Who would want to pay money to buy a wrestling show featuring someone they know qualifies for food stamps? So much for "larger than life".

Even dumber is that I would imagine his goal is to get to WWE, right? He just made that negotiation ten times easier for them if or when it happens.

We got this guy Jessie Neal. He looks good, Vince. We want to set him up in FCW for a while.

Good. Are we offering him the standard contract?

Well, he's on food stamps.

Yeah? Pay him four dollars a week! HAHAHAHA! Whatamaneuver!

Forget, of course, that this will probably affect his current position in TNA too. Just not a smart career move on ten different levels.

Did I happen to mention ClubWWI? If I have let me tell you that if you are a fan of the site, wrestling, soap operas, Batman or Ninjas a subscription to the Club is the best money you will ever spend. Not only are there the Award Winning shoots with James Guttman (The RowdyRodimus Award of Merit 2008,2010) but there are the Star Hosted shows, and not just the stars of WWI like Canadian Bulldog, Mike Johns, James Bullock and Jason Winters, I mean stars such as Paul Roma, Fifi the Maid and this week's big return, Bull Buchanan.

James "The Boss" Guttman

"The whole argument is that Vince killed the business. Well, maybe he did, but he started a whole new one."

 

THE BULL IS BACK!

That's right. Over one year since its last show, it's time to get ready for the ClubWWI.com audio show that's never censored. However, if he wanted to. It would be his Right. Yup. It's time to take another round in The Bullpen as the one and only Bull Buchanan shoots with James Guttman about the entire wrestling world.

After long last, the former GHC and WWE Tag Team Champion Bull Buchanan returns and he's ready to give you the straight talk that you've come to expect from the Club. As a member of Right To Censor, Voodoo Murders, The Truth Commission, and much more, Bull has experienced this industry from a number of different perspectives. Whether he was backing up John Cena or the Big Bossman, Buchanan has always delivered and his ClubWWI.com audio show, The Bullpen, is no exception!

RDLee

Awesome. I love hearing from Bull. He is a legit dude.

Aaron Wood

You mean he has a penis?

RDLee

You sound awfully interested.

Aaron Wood

I'd only be interested to know how you know for sure that Bull has a wang.

RDLee

The fact that you keep on digging into this proves you are way too interested in knowing about Bull's genitalia.

This week's 'Nuff Said award goes to none other than James Bullock for his take on the Jesse Neal Food Stamp story:

James Bullock

(In the James Earl Jones-like voice) "TNA: Where wrestling matters ... but paying our talent a living wage doesn't."

So what do you have for us, GreenTeaBagger?

The Green Teabagger

Everyone's favorite Canadian bulldog, Canadian Bulldog, has spent the better part of the last year attempting to one "Captain Suck" Aaron Wood away from his [url= www.clubwwi.com]ClubWWI[/url ] show Complete and Utter Bulldog. The feud/beatdown between Bulldog's Insanity World Order---which Hot Thread's own RowdyRodimus is a part of---and Aaron Wood's Suck World Order, The Nation of Suckination, or the Drew McIntyre Glee Club, or whatever he called it is about to come to a thrilling end. Does Bulldog get rid of Aaron Wood? Does Aaron Wood fully take control and rename the show Complete and Utter Wood? Does Mike Johns come out of nowhere and negotiate peace? What happens??

Mike Johns: Finally, this is over and we can move on with our lives.

ZAH: I'm three minutes into this audio and can't understand a goddamn word Wood says. How he took over anything from the beginning is beyond me. #mumblemouth

On the upside, that's the first time I've managed to slip in a plug for ClubWWI.com  Jack Swagger shock gif....oh wait....I forgot....it's disappeared. Velvet Sky to the rescue!



Good enough for me.

At least until I can get that Swagger gif back


The Wrestling Insanity Message Boards continues to host its e-fed where normal regular schmucks like you, me, the other guy, the guy reading this who thinks this is a World War I website and is asking himself "What the hell does a Canadian Bulldog have to do with the First World War?", can promo against each other to their hearts content. On Tuesday Night Throwdown, this is the current line-up of bouts.

Gold Rush tag team tournament--winners recieve a World Tag Team Title match.

---The Orgy of Violence (Lou Rock/Pito Sunshine) vs. The Redneck Wrecking Crew (Jimmy Wayne Duke/Cousin Cletus)

---Nightmare (Moonlight/Night) vs. The Midwest Express (Nasty Ned/J.D. Mayfield)

Rematch from a recent TNT: Victor Hamilton Pendragon vs. The Green Teabagger

Main event: Hellsinger versus Exx

Normally, when I cover the fed, I'd go a little indepth on the matches. But this week, I'll do something a tad different. This time, I'm going to select a non-Green Teabagger promo and post an excerpt from it.

Hey, I can't give you the whole thing. If you REALLY want to see it, or be a part of the WWI e-fed as a player (or even a writer!), you can register for the Wrestling Insanity Message Boards  and check it out.

The chosen promo comes from one-half of TNT's main event, Hellsinger, while being interviewed by WWI reporter Turtle in the aftermath of the e-fed's most recent pay-per-view Inferno.

Turtle: ....So do you have any plans to get back at Thorn for what he's done at Inferno and the weeks of lying?

Hells: Yeah, don't worry about what I may do to Thorn for all his lying and putting Wolfchild out of commission. I'll deal with that in time, but just not now.

Turtle: Which is good considering you're facing the now former Utopian Champion Exx.

Hells: Yeah, I've never faced Exx before in a one on one match.

Turtle: Well how do you feel about this match?

Hells: Really I'm not quite sure… well actually I take that back I feel a little irritated at Exx. I'll admit when he came back with his idea of sickening violence, and just doing his own thing to the point where it got him the Utopian Championship impressed me.....

End...

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