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Hot Threads: Michael Cole's Gong Show, Randy Orton is Batman, The Secret Identity of The Raw GM, and More

By Mike Johns Sep 21, 2010 - 11:39 PM

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Hot Topic  We’ve had a new member known as TheJamieNator who’s definitely made his presence known this past week.   His crowning achievement this week, though, has to be the thread he started this past Monday, asking our Forum Members who they thought the Mysterious RAW GM actually is.   Here’s a few of our Members’ theories –

TheJamieNator
Something tells me its a McMahon, or a Levesque.    But my gut is telling me to go with...............Drum roll please......

NOBODY!!! It will be dropped before being revealed.

Whats your take?

RowdyRodimus
My guess is either Jon Lovitz or John Lithgow. I'm hoping it's Susan St. James myself.

RYTMAN
1. Triple H
2. Hornswoggle
3. Matt Striker

wolfchild
A. Million Dollar Man Sr.
B. Triple H
C. Gobbltygooker

tharvey1
I'm going with HHH. He is hurt, so they can do an "annonymous" GM until he returns and is healthy enough to work a little. Eventually, this will lead to his heel turn so he can be the tyrannical GM

The Epitome of Man
He's been the tyrannical GM before though. See: WWF/WWE circa 2000 - 2007. By wrestlelaw, he'd have to wait until at least 2014 to rehash that gimmick.

I really don't see a fulfilling revelation to this entire angle, unless by some chance it turns out to be one Randall Mario Poffo (Randy Savage).

wolfchild
Technically, Nash could still save it for me... Or Heyman.. Wow, that would be pretty cool actually if Vince hired Heyman back without anyone knowing just for this gimmick...

Never happen, but i'd be cool...

The only thing I know anymore is it isn't Cole... Strangely that depresses me...

TheJamieNator
So true on the Cole part. He is playing the sniveling little butt plug to the tee. Or, maybe he ain't playing but nevertheless, I still find myself cursing his name more than any "bad guy" in WWE.

Anthony.Analog
The thing I don't get is why Cole's scripted to run down the Harts when they were never given proper mic time/pushes as tag champs to begin with. You could see legit frustration on their parts tonight. It was actually sad, and IMO, a fucked up thing for WWE to do. Very tacky. And then I remembered Katie Vick and the Kiss My Ass Club and realized I'd forgotten what company I was dealing with.

And I hope its The Rock, and that he gives Cole the Rock Bottom/People's Elbow treatment for being such a sniveling bastard.

wolfchild
As I was drifting off to sleep, I thought of this...

A fair man. Who holds some grudges. And hasn't been seen in a while. Would dislike Cole enough to enjoy making him read his every word... A person, because of illness, not injury, that would want to stay hidden...And knows every single catchphrase to recite on demand..

What if the GM turned out to be good ol' JR?

Would that ruin it for some? probably... But I'd enjoy it...

Aaron Wood
It's gonna have to be someone they can use going forward. So I doubt it's JR or Rock or anyone like that. I suspect that end up being Hunter for when he comes back. It would be a way to use him if he is reducing his working schedule.

The Chosen 1
Is there a "REAL" leader of Nexus anymore? they've really ignored that issue for a while... let alone the whole "great-a purpose"

Bundorama
I really hope it's not a current/active wrestler on their roster, as I feel that, within the context of the show, it's a conflict of interest and a logic gap. I mean, what would stop The G.M. from constantly giving themselves Title Matches stacked in their favor until they would win it?....

Aaron Wood
Who says the GM is allowed to wrestle on a regular basis even if it is a current wrestler?

Case example, Kurt Angle. even when Angle was out of his wheelcahir didn't wrestle in any matches, albeit he was short-term anyway. William Regal is an even better example. He was such an active wrestler, he won the GM spot, and while he had a few matches, he was largely forced in some way into them.

Bundorama
Do you remember Regal winning that shitty King Of The Ring Tournament on Raw a few years back?(That included Hornswoggle) In fact, I remember the announcers trying to sell the fact that the tourney itself was shitty since, because the it was on Raw, Raw G.M. Regal stacked the odds in his favor. Usually The King Of The Ring winner gets to face The World Champion at some point for The Title. It seemed to be the direction they were going before Regal failed his second Wellness Policy test, and was suspended for 2 months shortly thereafter....


I didn't mind Angle being The Smackdown G.M. for the reasons you listed; I.E.; He wasn't active/wrestling at the time, and it was a short term fix anyways....

They Call Me Phil
If it's not Eugene I'll be terribly upset

Imagine him coming out with his crooked little stumble biting his thumbnail and then he apologetically grabs the mic and shambles into the centre of the ring, gives a big enthusiastic wave hello and then kaizer soze's the hell up and delivers a promo slamming his former gimmick

that'd be good

James Bullock
I think it's Cole, AND I think he's the leader of Nexus. Cole seemed so invested in the show during the first season. Outside of Danielson, he didn't run down anyone in season 1. He went on a tear for the past two seasons, which would be understandable since he has no reason to care.
Or it could be Hunter to kill every heel, then turn heel to squash Bryan Danielson (you know it's going to happen).

Canadian Bulldog
I'm still going with my months-old prediction that it will be Triple H.

I keep going back to the segment where Vince McMahon thought Nexus was with him (not against him). How else would he have been on the periphery of that if it wasn't a family member?

Plus lulling Sheamus into a false sense of security with Nexus before having them go after him seems like "vintage" Triple H.

Anyways - sticking with my original idea.

exx
I still think its Cole. Hunter doesn't make sense to me since he'll no doubt be in a feud with Sheamus when he returns.

Aaron Wood
Why then, did he f*ck with Edge, for the sake of Daniel Bryan? And why has Lawler yet to notice Cole doing incrediobly long and wordy e-mails from his cellphone and then mere moments later have an e-mail to read out? Why has he screwed with his man-crush Miz on a few occasions? Indeed, largely, the GM's e-mails have had a babyface tone to them. That doesn't jive with Cole's new heel 'tude.

If anything, if it's either member of the announce team, Lawler is the more likely candidate. If for nothing else than he has an actual laptop in front of him and can just claim he's surfing for porn.

The Green Teabagger
It's Mae Young.

Tenchi
It's the re-animated corpse of Jack Tunney.

Mike Johns
As long as it's not Dixie Carter, I really don't care.

Hot Topic  Now, as the regular readers of this fun little column may know, one of most active threads of the week just happens to be our weekly RAW Thread on Monday Nights.   So, what stupid thing did Michael Cole say this week that got our Forum going?

                The Green Teabagger
               
"IT takes a real man to shave their legs." - Michael Cole

Actually, I have to admit, that was pretty good.   Between this and the gong, Cole’s new on-air persona’s actually becoming a weekly highlight in the Hit and Miss World of WWE Programming.   Speaking of the gong, I may as well use this as the opportunity to introduce a new segment to Hot Threads:   Mike’s New Favorite Signature of the Week.   This week’s New Favorite Signature of the Week is from exx, who is now using this as his Signature on Forum Posts –

I just love it.   I swear, if I had to sit through Divas NXT to earn a living, I’d bring a f**king gong, too!

Now, where was I?   Oh, yes – the RAW Thread!   Take it away, boys…

                wolfchild
               
Wait... Legendary's on DVD already?

The Green Teabagger
Well how else was WWE going to make anything on it besides the Cena marks buying anything with him on it?

For sh*t's sake, they could do a two hour DVD of Cena reading Jonathan Livingston Seagull while dressed as a seagull, tearing up while doing it, and the kiddies would beg their parents to buy it

JT
Wait The Miz came out and Cole didn't have his Mizgasm. Is he sick?

The Green Teabagger
Miz was speaking. Cole didn't want to interrupt in case Miz won't ask him to get his coffee anymore.

JT
There we go he just had it.

The Green Teabagger
Cole asked for Miz's autograph. :lol:

The Green Teabagger
[Reacting to Daniel Bryan’s New Theme Song] Holy sh*t.   I saw ROH on HDNet before the show. Sara Del Ray came out to the same song.

GENIUS!

Eaglesfn345
"Ride of the Valkyries"?!? now, that's awesome

[MJ Note: For the total NON-smarks reading this, SDR used to come out to “Final Countdown” by Europe, which Bryan was using as his theme at the time. Now, they’re both coming out to “Ride of the Valkyries”, which SDR has been using for the past year or so now in ROH.   The story is that SDR started using it at Bryan’s suggestion, only to find out later that he was using it in ROH.   Now, it seems, WWE and Bryan are returning the favor, so to speak.]

The Green Teabagger
Oh GOD

I have to put up with Michelle McCool on Raw AND Smackdown

I forgot

The Chosen 1
No.... they DID NOT Keep the f*cking Butterfly belt.... [MJ Note: Yes, they kept the Butterfly Princess Belt. I actually ranted about it a bit on my Twitter on Tuesday @TheMaverickMJ]

and not only that but to give up the BFF Necklace gimmick

JT
I went and took out my contact lenses, what did I miss, I know there was a divas match, but did I miss anything else?

The Green Teabagger
Layla used Diamond Dust to beat Melina clean

wolfchild
Layla killed Melina.

And Twix helps you cheat on your girlfriend...

The Green Teabagger
Ah.

Orton's going to punt Super Magic Mega Kick of Final Ultimate Death Jericho away

The Chosen 1
Wow... God what's the over/under of Nexus being crapped out Cena's ass tonight?

look even if he beats three of them then they jump him it'll still be a huge blow to the Nexus

RowdyRodimus
First time I ever missed every second of Raw since my stroke (I got into the room about 2 minutes after it ended that night, I told them to hurry and just stick the crap in my veins and get me to a TV), and only the second time ever.

My excuse this time is my brother bought me Halo Reach and since I haven't played them in a long time, I went out and bought Combat Evolved and Halo 2 so I can play them all. Reading what happened, it seems I chose wisely.

Bundorama
Didn't like this show for several reasons;

-The bait and switch they pulled going into the ppv yesterday with Jericho putting his career on the line if he didn't win The WWE Title, then offering up some lame, half assed explantion as to why this didn't happen. Then, they turned around and did it again on this show by advertising Barrett vs Cena for the whole program, then once again didn't come through...

-They went ahead and Unified The Womens Championship to....still have Laycool as Co-Unified Champion. Wonderful...

-The Mystery G.M. thing is really starting to wear thin. Hopefully, as was hinted at last night, his/her identity will come to light soon...

-Random Thought; Was there ever this little lag time between WWE PPVS before? I.E. 2 weeks. I wonder why they scheduled 2 PPVs so close together?.....

Aaron Wood
Given the that only person in THREE WEEKS to have even mentioned that Jericho would leave is Cole on Sunday night, only for Matt Striker's next line to amount to "But he reneged on that", it should be perfectly clear that if Jericho is leaving, he's not quitting "permanently" and that stipulation was essentially a dead one going into the PPV, never mind RAW. I can only imagine that Jericho came to terms with the WWE, and is getting some time off before he comes back at some point down the road.

Bundorama
Doesn't matter if Michael Cole was the only one who mentioned it, the fact was it was mentioned going into the ppv, and at the ppv. If there was a chance Jericho was going to re-sign with The WWE, then this stipulation never should have been included into the fold in the first place. It came off bait and switch, and I'm not the only person who felt this way, either....

Aaron Wood
Hey, at least they aren't TNA where they introduced a retirement stip even though they ended up signing Victoria to another contract anyway, and then went through with the match knowing they didn't have to job Victoria anymore, and did so anyway only to bring her back in an angle that made no sense whatsoever.

exx
Its still kind of ridiculous when their own announcers aren't on the same page with the storyline stips. I never took the stip seriously anyway since Jericho got kicked off raw numerous times just to return the next week anyway. If they don't care about their stips, why should I? If Cena loses to Barrett at HIAC, why can't he just say he was just kidding when he agreed to the stip?

Aaron Wood
Well, in that particular case, Cena is a man of his word. "Hustle, Loyalty Respect" and all that. He's never shown a trait for being hypocritical or two-faced. So while he might not like it and f*ck with Nexus from within, were he to lose, he would be part of the group, if an unwilling one.

Whereas conversely, Jericho is always full of sh*t. Heels are. Just look at Miz with his MCL excuses for the PPV and his supposed hernia the week before.

I mean, I take your point about going back on stips and the previous thing on RAW with Jericho was ridiculous, but if he has re-signed albeit with impending time off, I think they were right to have him recant saying it (although they could have done a helluva lot better job getting that idea over) instead of, as I mentioned earlier with the TNA thing, go through with it anyway, only to bring them back in fairly quick fashion.

I mean, that's why I mentioned the Victoria thing. Because surely it would be less logic, worse storytelling and indeed worse for us as fans to believe in stipulations if Jericho was back in a few months like Victoria instead of just having them go "Jericho said he was bullsh*tting".

Hot Topic  So, did you get a chance to see WWE’s Night of Champions this past Sunday?   Here’s what some of our members thought of the show –

                RDLee
               
Miz/Bryan was the best match I've seen since Taker/HBK at WM.

TheJamieNator
I bought this ppv because I was excited of the taker/kane match. But, match of the night: DANIEL BRYANSON IS THE NEEEEEEEEEEWWWW U.S. CHAMPION!!! I thought for sure MIZ would cash in money in the bank, but oh well.

Close second, shockingly, was The Six Pack challenge. Nicely done, and I swear to God I almost thought Wade Barrett was going to win the damn thing.

T-Dog
With Hell in a Cell in two weeks and Bragging Rights 3 weeks after that (3 PPV's in 5 weeks), WWE is going to have bad buyrates coming up.

Then you add on UFC's next three PPV's (one overseas so two for North America) in the same time period, including Lesnar's next PPV fight the weekend of Bragging Rights, WWE and TNA will suffer big time.

The Green Teabagger
You know what I'm surprised no one has done yet.

We're always waiting for the predictable "heel with MitB waits until champion is down before cashing it in"

Why doesn't Miz (or anyone for that matter) just beat the shit out of Orton (or whoever happens to be champion) with the briefcase and THEN cash it in?

Mike Johns
Miz did that on a Raw with Sheamus... didn't quite work out the way he wanted, so he took the case back and ran for the hills when Sheamus got back up.

shooting
what a sad day for wrestling.

Superman won the WWE title (again), the US title being downgraded to a jobber title and the WWE forgot SD's tag teams.

The only good thing about this PPV was Punk jobbing

Tenchi
Strange. Were you watching the same PPV? As far as I recall, Cena was eliminated from the Six-pack challenge.

Mike Johns
Yeah, I was pretty sure it was Batman who won the belt. Wade Barrett and Nexus sprayed Supes with the Kryptonite jobber spray, but it didn't work on Bats because of his anti-There's No Chance In Hell I'm Taking the Wasteland and Risking ANOTHER Dislocated Shoulder This Year pill from his batbelt.

The Epitome of Man
KRYPTONIE JOBBER SPRAY!!! So THATS what HHH spits all over the ring before EVERY match. Everything that's happened in the WWF/WWE since 2000 makes PERFECT sense now.

Squeaky
After Orton won, and they had 5 minutes to kill, that was the first time since Wrestlemania that the talent gap between JR and Cole has been evident.

JR has been missed, but Cole has come along with his heel persona nicely and is doing a much better job. It's easy and fun to criticize him, but he's doing much better.

That being said, after Orton wins the title and they have 5 minutes to kill, and they are just showing Orton pose over and over again, and then the announcers RUN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY! I believe it was Lawler who even uttered the faithful phrase for me, "What more can you say?"

I dunno Jerry, anything? So we're not staring in silence at a new champion as the cheers get softer and softer? Anyway, JR would have come up with something to say, a way to fill the time, and this was the first time since Wrestlemania that I saw a noticeable drop off between him and Cole.

Aaron Wood
Actually, I would wager money that JR would have done the exact opposite. I would bet that JR would have shut his yap the whole time, instead of floundering around for something to say. A case of letting the picture tell the story. It certainly depends on the moment, but there have been tons where JR has just sat back and let the picture drive the narrative.

Last night with Miz & Daniel Bryan, for example. They shut their yap and let what was happening tell the story, instead of acting all indignant and arguing about whether Bryan deserved what he was getting as it was happening.

Squeaky
JR knew when to let the picture tell the story, but that was clearly the case where they were looking to fill 5 minutes and they needed someone to say something, anything. Maybe he would have been silent to start, but then he would have interjected something.

Re: Bryan vs. Miz: The match FINALLY started to pick up when it stopped being about Cole trashing Bryan and just started being about the great match they were putting on. I understand he's trying to develop a heel persona, but you can be a dick without taking things AWAY from the match. See BL, J

Hot Topic  And, finally, let’s end the week on a high note, and yet another new segment here on Hot Threads: Mike’s Diva-Related Post of the Week, where I share with you, the Insanity Readers, the one post that best defines my Diva Obsession (and most likely questions my sexuality something fierce) over the past week

                Mike Johns
               
WHAT ON EARTH HAS MY MADDIE DONE TO HER HAIR?!?!?!?

Honey, I know you're heel and all, but just because it worked for Molly Holly doesn't mean you have to do it, too!

Now, if you can imagine me shrieking like Jack from Will & Grace, then you can begin to understand my reaction to this atrocity.

But hell… she’s still a freaking Goddess.   Ab Fab and then some.

Wow, that sounds gay.   I think I seriously need to lay off the GaGa before I lose my mind completely…

This is just a taste of what you're missing on the Boards. Why don't you come by sometime and check it out for yourself, eh?   You never know when something you post may end up being the next Hot Thread.

http://s14.zetaboards.com/Wrestling_Insanity


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